Hello! My name is stephenaug (Steve) and I am currently inactive on the Midsomer Murders Wiki.
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I have been trying to find the last episode of Tom Barnaby for months, and it just is NOT in the US or at least not on the Amazon Prime, Brit box of US episodes. They are 90 min. long, just like the others and ends BEFORE the birthday party, so we don't know what is happening and all of a sudden, there is his cousin taking over his job. I saw this show years ago with all episodes and it was on there and also quite a few of the first shows with Neil Dudgeon are missing as well. What is going on with this show? I would like to see the beginning at least of the new shows, as it is it opens with no explanation or beginning, you open the first episode and he is there and working - ridiculous!!!!
There is an explanation... The producer Brian True-May, has said that two different endings for Fit for Murder were filmed. One showed the ending as Tom's birthday party and the other had a retirement party. The retirement party version was to be shown when the episode first aired, and all subseqent airings would be with the birthday party. We look back on that decision now and think that was crazy. Here is an article with excerpts of an interview that True-May gave in March of 2011.
Both the PBS version I have and the Britbox version show the birthday party ending. Someone posted the retirement party version on Youtube a while back but I can't find it now. I suppose I should get the DVD or Blu-ray and see what's on there.
I have a question. I'm not so sure which murders should be considered to have been comitted prior to the episode. Because of this I don't know exactly which murders should be added to the Murdered Prior to the Episode category in Midsomer Body Count page. What is your opinion? I consider that it should be those murders that Barnaby doesn't know about them until later in the episode or aren't the first murder that Barnaby investigates. I could be wrong though.
My concerns started from Agnes Gray because she is somehow killed prior to the curent period of the episode (some weeks prior or something), but her death gets investigated imediately, it's the first. And in Mrs. Foster's case the murder took place years prior to the episode and even though her death is importand to the story she isn't mentioned until the end. Situations like that of Agnes should be clarified.
Hmmm. Agnes was really killed during the episode, and as you say it was maybe a few weeks or less, but it was still part of the episode and was investigated first off. In Judgement Day, Mrs. Foster was the first victim of Bella Devere (as Annabel). Even though it was way before the main events of the episode, the murder was intertwined with the plot, even though it was at the end. The murder of Agnes shouldn't be considered "Prior to the Episode", but the murder of Mrs. Foster should, but it still should be listed in the murder tally.
I think they should be listed, I don't see a problem in that because they were mentioned. And Gaius Quintus was even shown in that video that I posted in the Body Count. What we could do is finish with adding the other deaths that are not in the Body Count yet. And when we calculate the totals at the top of the page, we can say near them how many deaths were shown on-screen or something like that.
I think you have some good ideas. I'm not so heavily invested in the actual murder/death totals as they are really just fun trivia, but as with any trivia, there's lots of minutia that will pile on to the task of presenting the information. Don't get me wrong - I love the minutia and do think that everything should be presented.
I had originally thought that the facts regarding the murders could be placed on the episode page in order to give more space for the narrative. This would give the opportunity to explain everything we have been discussing. We can still do that for the episodes that have these prior murders or deaths that are mentioned.
And also, give some thought to what the "Body Count" should be with the understanding that the Series is really about Murders that take place in Midsomer County.
You created a page for a character named "Freddy Raitt" played by Josephine Butler. The actress Josephine Butler appeared as Freddie Raft in the episode The Oblong Murders. If there really is a minor character named Freddie Raitt, I apologize and will restore the page, however, I believe that you simply had the character's name wrong and created a page for a character that already existed.
Hello Steve. Actually, I did have some ideas. I wrote a message in Dr._Dementor's wall knowing that you were inactive, but he didn't respond.
I'll copypaste what I wrote to him:
"Hello! I was wondering if we should change the description on the Main Page. At least the first paragraph. I was thinking maybe we should put the following text from IMDb: "The British detective drama revolves around Detective Chief Inspector Barnaby's efforts to solve numerous murders that take place in the fictional English county of Midsomer. The current lead character is Detective Chief Inspector John Barnaby (Neil Dudgeon), who is the younger cousin of former lead character Detective Chief Inspector Tom Barnaby (John Nettles). The Barnabys have worked with several different Sergeants throughout the run of the show, including Sergeant Gavin Troy (Daniel Casey), Sergeant Dan Scott (John Hopkins), Detective Sergeant Ben Jones (Jason Hughes), Detective Sergeant Charlie Nelson (Gwilym Lee), and Sergeant Jamie Winter (Nick Hendrix)." What do you think? I like it because it ties the past of the show to the present. I'm looking forward to your reply."
Although i did promise to stay out of your way as the two of you continue to manage the WIKI as you see fit, My opinion is that the main page should be refreshed from time to time. What you are suggesting is relatively minor and I don't see a problem. The Main Page is protected so that only Admins can edit,
By the way, i've been watching the page view counts and the MM Wiki is sometimes way over 10,000 views per day. It reaches a lot of people!
I re-tooled the Shetland Wiki and am currently working on the Jack Reacher Wiki when I have time. The MM wiki is yours and Dr Dementors to run and you have done a great job!
There's a category hierarchy there. The Deceased category is a top level category that should only contain other categories, such as Natural Death, Accidental Death, Murder Victim and Suicide Victim. There shouldn't be any people directly in the Deceased category, they should be in one of the lower level categories. The people that are there should be moved...
Oh - Just looked at the 3 people that appear in the Deceased category. They all are "unspecified" deaths. So perhaps we need another category within the deceased category "Unspecified Deaths". That woul be the best solution.
That won't be necesary. In the episodes, if a character died in an awfull way or had an unnatral death, they won't miss the chance and say it. If it hasn't been said anything, we just know that someone died, that means that the person had an natural death.
Suspect is a little bit loosely defined. I would consider it to be anyone that had been considered a suspect for the murder (or murders) that are a part of the episode. Doesn't have to be an official suspect, but could be someone who Barnaby and/or his detectives are suspicious of.
First, could you create your profile page as it makes it easier to communicate? - thanks.
Thanks for your recent edits. Please make sure when creating new pages that you add a category (i.e. "Towns and villages" or "Director") . Also, it's easiest to structure your pages in the same manner as existing, similar pages. For example, when creating pages for Writers or Directors, take a look at how existing pages look and structure the new pages the same way.
Please take some time to go back and edit the pages you just created and change them so that they are similar in style and content to existing pages.
In answer to your question, we would love to have good, high quality content for Writers, Directors and Villages (well, everything actually...), but it comes down to how much time I'm able to spend maintaining this Wikia. Currently, my time is very limited, but that may not always be the case. I may be able to jump in to help your efforts from time to time, but I can't promise.
One thing I am sure of is that neither myself nor Dr. Dementor want to spend any time fixing edits made by other users. Since you've just started editing here, we're hopeful that you'll catch on quickly.
Thanks again for your contributions! if you need any assistance, feel free to ask.